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I reckon this (FG) is more important than OG:IBU.

Two beers at 1.050 with 40 IBU, one finishes at 1.020 and the other at 1.010 - the 1.010 will appear more bitter as there will be less balancing of residual sugars with bitterness.

It would seem to me that the other way - say a 1.060 and 1.040 with the same IBU and same FG wouldn't come of as being massively different in apparent bitterness.
lol but thats just confusing, there must be a way to calculate it surely??

Totally see what you guys are saying tho...
FG:IBU could work.

OG:FG:IBU maybe?

OG - FG:IBU maybe?

Haha I dunno.
There's no formula, but think about it.
Brew a beer at 1.040 and 20 IBU, nice balance.
If it finishes at 1.010, nice.
At 1.006, you'd probably say 'too sharp'
1.014 beefy - you'd probably say 'add more hops' (though some may say nice malty beer)

FG will alter your perception of the hops yea ?

I think it means hop to your yeasts performance
Anyway - weighed & milled, ready for the morning.
That flaked wheat didn't mill through very well, looks very untouched, maybe that's why my og was so last time.
It's the commonsense organics (millmore downs) FW, very flat unlike the torrified. Must slip through the gap.
i used to mill wheat by itself and put it through twice, hadn't thought about this stuff.

Anyway, had a big kid brown (amongst all the others) and the tap's pouring ok so all is good in the world
How is your Hoppy Brown getting along?
I was just thinking about that !
I'm itching to have a taste but I'll leave the hydro sample for Monday, give it a whole seven undisturbed days.

It's trucking along solidly on the garage floor at 17c, good pressure on the lid.
Was very bitter at pitching, but had a good deep flavour to it.

Planned to be my contribution to the North Welly tasting at Queens Birthday weekend

I'm sure I'm going to appreciate all the good advice on this one chap

cheers, jt
Ok, 24 litres of happy brown fun in the fermenter about to start partying with some rehydrated Nottingham.

I got the 1.036 I wanted, now to see how high I can end it - probably chose the wrong yeast I suspect
Jo, the hoppy brown is excellent. Had Bookbinder and Hoppy Brown on the same day and I'd eagerly take a pint of either (or both)
I wonder how this will turn out. I am hoping for something towards hoppy & bitter like an APA, but dark and somewhat sweet.

I think I will call it "Bitter Sweet Night"

Grain
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6.1kg Golden Promise
1kg Caraamber
300g Pale Chocolate

Hops
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50g Chinook 60
50g Simcoe 30
50g Simcoe 15
50g Simcoe 0

50g Simcoe Dry hop (May change the dry hop to Cascade)

Irish Moss at 10 min

OG 1.068
Mate that looks pretty hoppy, should be quite the American Brown ale! What sort of IBU are you expecting from that?
I think I will call it "Bitter Sweet Night"

So you really were in the crap for brewing in the evening ?

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