Are you calling my beer shit Tony? haha, you're right mate, a lot of it probably is.
I've been getting a strong taste for 1768 thanks to Martin, S04 might just be relegated to back-up status.
Barry I am absolutely not calling your beer shit ;0. I was referring to the British and American brewers that Glen referred to. I have heard that you may have seen the light as far as Liquid yeast goes?
Yip I think your onto a winner there S04 has to be WLP007 as they are shit, all my raving came within a month of drinking them than they just turned to shit!!
For me 1968 seems to be a 1 gen wonder all the other gens just dont seem the same!!