Recipe Advice Thread

[denimglen]

Thought it might be handy to have a thread for some of the more advanced brewers to give some advice on recipes.

Let's see how it goes eh...

[Ralph]

Ok, thanks. I will try it at about 1 to 4.

[Ralph]

Just tasted the first bottle of the NZPA I put down. The 1 to 4 ratio for Nelson Sauvin to NZ Cascade seems really good! Not sure that the Hallertauer adds anything much, but I had some sitting around that needed using...

 

Starting Gravity: 1.047 SG Batch Size: 17.50 l Final Gravity: 1.009 SG Mash Profile: Single Infusion, Medium Body

 

 

Fermentables

Amt	Name	Type	#	%/IBU
3.300 kg	Pilsner (2 Row) NZ Malteurop - Wigram (2.0 EBC)	Grain	5	89.2 %
0.300 kg	Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (118.2 EBC)	Grain	6	8.1 %
0.100 kg	Cara-Pils/Dextrine (3.9 EBC)	Grain	7	2.7 %

 

Hops Used

Amt	Name	Type	#	%/IBU
7.50 g	Green Bullet [13.20 %] - Boil 60.0 min	Hop	8	14.1 IBUs
25.00 g	NZ Cascade [7.60 %] - Boil 10.0 min	Hop	11	9.8 IBUs
25.00 g	Hallertauer, New Zealand [8.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min	Hop	10	10.9 IBUs
5.00 g	Nelson Sauvin [12.40 %] - Boil 10.0 min	Hop	12	3.2 IBUs
25.00 g	Hallertauer, New Zealand [8.50 %] - Boil 0.0 min	Hop	13	0.0 IBUs
25.00 g	NZ Cascade [7.60 %] - Boil 0.0 min	Hop	14	0.0 IBUs
5.00 g	Nelson Sauvin [12.40 %] - Boil 0.0 min	Hop	15	0.0 IBUs
50.00 g	NZ Cascade [7.60 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Days	Hop	17	0.0 IBUs
25.00 g	Hallertauer, New Zealand [8.50 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Days	Hop	18	0.0 IBUs
10.00 g	Nelson Sauvin [12.40 %] - Dry Hop 0.0 Days	Hop	19	0.0 IBUs

Nottingham yeast (washed from previous brew)

[martin w]

are you sure you like that much sauvin, i like it in moderation but i've found its pretty easy to overdo it and i've found it overpowers other hops pretty easily and i find too much to be a bit unpleasant! give it a go and see what you think but if you want to change it i reckon i'd go for about a quarter or the amount of riwaka at the most,maybe down to a sixth,having said that i've never used riwaka so i'm not sure how it would handle it,maybe it'll stand up to the sauvin?

is the ebc figure correct for the pale crystal?

[David Wood]

Hi.

That the info I have for the crystal. I have brewed this before in a 28L batch and it turned out great (by my taste buds) The final colour looked similar to the Beer Smith Indication. The hop recomendation are interesting. If you are correct in saying the Sauvin will over power the Riwaka then I realy like sauvin. But I will back off the sauvin next time to allow the riwaka flavour to come through. I have brewed over 50 AG brews and I realy like what I brew. I hope to enter the next Limbo Comp. May be others will like my creations.  Thanks Dave

[jt]

(by my taste buds)

 

And that's the bit that counts ...

[David Wood]

Interesting comment on the sauvin. I put about 20g in a pilsner and it was not the best. In the IPA the mix of hops was Brilliant and I will brew this recipe many times in the future.

 

Thanks

 

Dave

[martin w]

the first time i used it was in either a munich  sauvin smash,i can't remember the hopping rate but i really liked the sauvin, the next time i used it i went for it with the hops and it really wasn't that good,i think i used it 1:1 with amarillo,i may as well have saved the amarillo because i couldn't taste them,ever since then i've been pretty conservative with them.

and as you said above,its your tastes that count,if it were up to me sprouts wouldn't exist in the world......

[jt]

Sprouts are ok, as long as hide the flavor !

[Scarrfie]

Well I have four batches of pilsner/lager in various stages lying around and I wanted to do an ale, but I am still brewing at ambient (12°C on my garage floor) so have to stick with lagers for now. So I am thinking something malt driven rather than the hops that dominate my lagers. So a Munich Dunkel is the plan.

4.5Kg Light Munich

0.25Kg Chocolate malt (EBC 120)

Perhaps 0.2Kg Melanoidin Malt

10g Hallertau Aroma 8.1AA @ 60 mins

20g Hallertau Aroma 8.1 AA@ 15 mins

 

Est 26 IBU, but I might push that up to 28IBU. EBC 40.9

 

Probably a single infusion mash @66 °C with my modified BIAB/Chilli bin method.

Will dump onto a yeast cake of W-34/70

Any feedback much appreciated.

[RopenutS]

So this is what im planning on doing for my first all grain brew in a couple of weeks when Ive got all my equipment. Ive been using brewmate, seems all good for free software. Im just keeping it pretty simple and trying an APA

 

5kg   Golden Promise

200g  Crystal 60

 

Cascade  25g @60

Simcoe  15g @30

Amarillo  10g @15

Simcoe 10g @15

Cascade 15 @5

Amarillo 15 @0

 

Says im getting about 50 IBUS which is all good with me. Of course if i can't source those hops i'll have to find alternatives. What you guys think? Anything look wrong here? Cheers

 

[Michael]

Jo has the cascade. That is not a problem. Amarillo may be hard for you to get, and I am not sure what would be a similar hop. It is a very unique flavour IMO.

 

Maybe you can go cascade and pacifica? Motueka hops may be nice as a replacement as well.

 

There are awesome hops in NZ, so do not discount them. Many homebrewers in the US wish they could get Sauvin!

[Chris Scott]

The Cascade and Amarillo should be easy to get, I'd love to know where to get some Simcoe though, been searching high and low.

Any ideas of a decent substitution for it?