Recipe Advice Thread

[denimglen]

Thought it might be handy to have a thread for some of the more advanced brewers to give some advice on recipes.

Let's see how it goes eh...

[Dale]

Hi Guys, doing a Bohemian Pilsner next week and was going to do just with Motueka hops but have just got my hands on some Riwaka hops, should I do 50/50 with both? Thanks

4.50 kg .Pilsner, Bohemian (Weyermann) (1.6 SRM) Grain 85.71 %
0.45 kg .Cara-Pils (Weyermann) (2.5 SRM) Grain 8.57 %
0.30 kg .Vienna Malt (Weyermann) (3.0 SRM) Grain 5.71 %
45.00 gm .Motueka [7.10 %] (60 min) Hops 32.9 IBU
20.00 gm .Motueka [7.10 %] (15 min) Hops 7.3 IBU
1.22 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Bohemian Lager (Wyeast Labs #2124) Yeast-Lager

[Reviled]

Depends on what you want really, Motueka is slightly spicy with a bit of an orangey thing going on, where as Riwaka is quite tropical and passionfruit like... Emersons Pils is 100% Riwaka last time I heard? So a 50/50 combo with Motueka might be really nice!!

One thing - thats quite alot of carapils IMO, you may need to up the IBU's a little bit? But maybe someone else can shed a bit more light there?

[Dale]

Thanks Reviled, I got the recipe from the sample's in Beersmith that said .45kg what do you recon you'd put it down to?

[JackoNZ]

I've done a Bo Pils with 100% Riwaka and my mate did the same recipe with 100% Motueka, both great beers. I got the tropical thing going on he got a kinda lychee flavour coming through. I reckon they would go well together. Our hop additions were 60, 30, 10, 0 and I do like the flavour that's given us. IBU's were about same as yours and I'd say they could definitely go bigger if you like your hops. I wonder if you'll get closer to the bitterness I was expecting with the 30 IBUs up front rather than splitting them up over the 60 mins?

[Reviled]

Id say that 5% would be plenty!! To be honest you dont even really need it, it will add a bit more body and a bit of a caramel flavour, but without it it will be crisp and a bit cleaner IMO...

Up to you at the end of the day tho...

[Dale]

Thanks guys, this sound better?

4.50 kg .Pilsner, Bohemian (Weyermann) (1.6 SRM) Grain 90.00 %
0.30 kg .Vienna Malt (Weyermann) (3.0 SRM) Grain 6.00 %
0.20 kg .Cara Malt (Bairds) (17.8 SRM) Grain 4.00 %
20.00 gm .Riwaka [5.50 %] (60 min) Hops 12.6 IBU
20.00 gm .Motueka [7.10 %] (60 min) Hops 16.2 IBU
15.00 gm .Motueka [7.10 %] (15 min) Hops 6.0 IBU
15.00 gm .Riwaka [5.50 %] (15 min) Hops 4.7 IBU
10.00 gm .Motueka [7.10 %] (0 min) Hops -
10.00 gm .Riwaka [5.50 %] (0 min) Hops -
0.50 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Bohemian Lager (Wyeast Labs #2124) Yeast-Lager

[denimglen]

I'd leave out the caramalt, it will be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay sweet with any amount in there.

I'd go 100% pils malt to be honest.

But then again with all those hops a little bit of Munich, Vienna OR melanoidin wouldn't go a miss.

[Dale]

Cheers Glen so what's a little Vienna for u .3kg or less?

[denimglen]

Have you had Tuatara helles? I brewed a Helles a while back that was really similar - about 4kg pils, 0.3kg Munich and 0.1kg Melanoidin (and 19IBU) - that was one malty sunuvabitch.

Where am I going with this? I dunno. I don't use Vienna much esp in beers like this. But since it's kilned less than Munich you won't get as many melanoidins, so 0.3kg sounds about right.

FWIW - the BoPils recipe in Brewing Classic Styles is1.056 - 1.016 94% pils 6% Carapils, 40 IBU, Czech Saaz all the way through with 2oz at 30, 1oz at 10 and 1oz at 0mins.

Hope that helps somewhat.

[Reviled]

Do you have caramalt or carapils? Or both? Cos id definately go for carapils over caramalt...

I reckon a 4% carapils and 6% Vienna combo would be nice, itll hold up the hops well and be a nice balanced lager!

[Dale]

Thought I had carapils but it's caramalt I got from the local brewery. I see Dunedin Malthouse has carapils so I might order a couple of kg from them for my stock. As always thanks heaps guys for your help.

[Steve Baker]

Hi All, I want to spend my next few brews on sessionable english ales. What do you think of the recipe below? I guess I'm aiming for something like Twisted Hop Goldings but slightly higher gravity. Looking for an orangey/red colour.

I'm planning on using 1968 but if that doesn't arrive in time I might have to go with US-05 at about 21deg. Will I get away with this sub?

Both Goldings's are NZ, Fuggles are imported. I'll be adding some amount of Gypsum.

Recipe: Bogan's Best Bitter

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 21.00 L
Estimated OG: 1.044 SG
Estimated Color: 13.1 SRM
Estimated IBU: 31.4 IBU

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.80 kg Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 83.15 %
0.35 kg Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 7.66 %
0.25 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L 250EBC (120.0 SGrain 5.47 %
0.15 kg Caramunich Malt (56.0 SRM) Grain 3.28 %
0.02 kg Chocolate Malt (450.0 SRM) Grain 0.44 %
35.00 gm Fuggles [4.50 %] (60 min) Hops 19.2 IBU
15.00 gm Styrian [4.70 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
15.00 gm Goldings [4.20 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
15.00 gm Styrian [4.70 %] (15 min) Hops 4.3 IBU
15.00 gm Fuggles [4.50 %] (15 min) Hops 4.1 IBU
15.00 gm Goldings [4.20 %] (15 min) Hops 3.8 IBU