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I've heard it's danish but i can't remember where i heard that... if you ask Richard he'll pretend he didn't hear you ;-)
I have fermented S05 at 12 degrees with no ill affect actualy tastes remarkable actually, also Sierra Nevada brew there Lager with Chico
If you ferment US05 low you get sulphur and diacetyl! I've used it a few times now and am quite surprised how well it performs against a true lager strain.
If I knew I could get these results I would of never purchased the Hella Bock Yeast for my Baltic Porter, I would of Just used S05 @ 12
Not much help for tomorrow, but I used W2112 for some largerish attempts with no cooling and temps upto 18C, admittedly in autumn rather than summer.

I haven't tried the same with 05 - but some ales I've fermented under 18C have turned out pretty crisp.

I reckon with a combination of mash temp and a cooler 05 ferment you could be on the bus to the ballpark, but maybe not in it

If you're really keen, look for some tips & tricks on keeping temperatures down. Stuff like iceblocks and wet towels etc

cheers' jt
Straight up quaffing lager, tomorrow.

5kg Weyermann Pilsner
50g Nelson Sauvin 60 min
25g " " 10 minutes
30g NZ Hallertau FO

California lager Wyeast
What fermentation temp Tony ?
I am storing it under the house, so I hope to keep it down to below 17 deg. Unfortunately I don't have any form of temperature control ( apart from a heat pad), so I am at the mercy of the elements and how cool I can store it.
I did a few Spring brews with W2112 and no temperature control, which varied between 13 and 18 and turned out ok.

Undefined 'quaffer' style, mostly Aussie Pale with 10-20%'ish Munich and sometimes some wheat.
Yes, Wyeast California lager, is my goto lager yeast. I find it the most forgiving and user friendly for a lager yeast strain
I havent tried the cali lager strain for my own brewing, but ive tasted beers that were fermented with it at warm temps, but IMO I didnt really like it all that much, I definately prefer a cool S-05 ferment over a 2112 beer...

If you can get temp control tho, or some kind of cooling (TM for cheap fridges, I used to brew lagers with the fridge set on 1, so no need for a tempmate, cost me $20 and lasted 12 months!!) I would seriously highly reccommend Wyeast 2124 or the dried equivalent! It is truely an awesome yeast, so damn clean and crisp! Yum!! Just make sure you do a big enough starter ;o)

James - in case you cant tell your Pilsner last night has got me hankering for more lagers!! :o) My lager fridge gave up the ghost the other week tho so im also on the lookout for something new... So keen to get a lager fermenting, cos I know its allready too late for summer :o(
fermented with it at warm temps,

What do you call warm ?

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