What are you brewing?

[nzbrewer]

Since this is the most popular thread on the RealBeer.co.nz forum I thought I would start it here just to see what happens

[MrC]

Looks like a solid little recipe there jt.

You mentioned on another thread that you were maybe not entirely happy with your hopping. I wondered at the time whether you just needed a bit more background malt to round out the overall flavour a bit. This recipe is along the lines of what I was thinking.

[jt]

The perceived hop problem sorted itself out Mr C - posted a followup yesterday . The recipe commented on was malty enough, 25% special k, it was just the perception of the hops and balance of the three of them that I wasn't happy with.
http://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/xn/detail/1500433:Comment:81166?xg_...

And what is it that you think isn't quite right?

Just conditioning time. I'm happier with this now it's had some cold tank time.
It's lost the raw unrefined edges and by my usual one hop standards is positively sophisticated (well I'm enjoying drinking it anyway) and I'll brew it again in a forthnight

[martin w]

going to put this on today

Recipe Overview

Wort Volume Before Boil: 46.00 l Wort Volume After Boil: 40.00 l
Volume Transferred: 40.00 l Water Added To Fermenter: 0.00 l
Volume At Pitching: 40.00 l Volume Of Finished Beer: 39.00 l
Expected Pre-Boil Gravity: 1.047 SG Expected OG: 1.054 SG
Expected FG: 1.013 SG Apparent Attenuation: 74.9 %
Expected ABV: 5.4 % Expected ABW: 4.2 %
Expected IBU (using Tinseth): 50.0 IBU Expected Color (using Morey): 7.2 SRM
BU:GU ratio: 0.93 Approx Color:
Mash Efficiency: 80.0 %
Boil Duration: 60.0 mins
Fermentation Temperature: 18 degC


Fermentables
Ingredient Amount % MCU When
German Munich Malt 8.600 kg 100.0 % 9.9 In Mash/Steeped


Hops
Variety Alpha Amount IBU Form When
NZ Nelson Sauvin 10.6 % 40 g 27.7 Loose Pellet Hops 60 Min From End
NZ Nelson Sauvin 10.6 % 50 g 16.8 Loose Pellet Hops 20 Min From End
NZ Nelson Sauvin 10.6 % 50 g 5.5 Loose Pellet Hops 5 Min From End
NZ Nelson Sauvin 10.6 % 50 g 0.0 Loose Pellet Hops At turn off
NZ Nelson Sauvin 10.6 % 70 g 0.0 Loose Pellet Hops Dry-Hopped


Yeast
DCL US-05 (formerly US-56) SafAle

any final recommendations before i do it?
cheers
martin

[MrC]

Ah, the Sauvin/Munich SMaSH that you mentioned, looks pretty good to me. I hope you like Sauvin though!

[martin w]

never tried it! i hope i do or i'll have 40 litres of "gifts"!

[martin w]

ok, you've got me a little worried and after reviewing my notes to see what i'd done with previous brews i'm going to change it to this -

NZ Nelson Sauvin 10.6 % 30 g 27.7 Loose Pellet Hops 60 Min From End
NZ Nelson Sauvin 10.6 % 25 g 16.8 Loose Pellet Hops 20 Min From End
NZ Nelson Sauvin 10.6 % 25 g 5.5 Loose Pellet Hops 5 Min From End
NZ Nelson Sauvin 10.6 % 30 g 0.0 Loose Pellet Hops At turn off
NZ Nelson Sauvin 10.6 % 40 g 0.0 Loose Pellet Hops Dry-Hopped

it'll also the first beer that i've dry hopped.

[MrC]

Don't let me influence you too much with hop schedules Martin. My comment wasn't so much relating to the hop schedule, it was more related to Sauvin being the only hop in there and that it's going to be fairly prominent. There's not a lot to hide behind in a SMaSH beer.

The more I drink beers that use Sauvin for flavour & aroma, the less I like it. It's just a personal preference. My comment of "I hope you like Sauvin though" was simply that. 40L is a lot of sauvin beer if you don't like Sauvin.

Go with what you like and what your notes and experience tell you.


t'll also the first beer that i've dry hopped.
Awesome. You'll probably want to dry hop everything you brew for a while after this :-)

[Mark]

Duvel clone:

OG 1.071
FG 1.006
8.5% ABV

6kg Malteurop pils
1kg dextrose
Wyeast 1388

Not sure of hops yet, probably some pacific jade and cascade I've got lying around, all 60min addition to 40 odd IBUs.

Mashed cool and long.

[Llew Bardecki]

I've wanted to do a big hop bomb American Double IPA for ages. I'm finally planning on brewing it tonight with some of the US hop pellets my parents brought me when they were visiting recently.

15L batch (both to make sure the grain bill isn't too big, and because I'll probably be drinking limited quantities of this at ~9%abv)

4.0kg Malteurop Pilsner 73.8%
0.5kg Weyermann Munich 1 8.2%
0.3kg Baird Crystal 100EBC 4.9%
0.3kg Baird Caramalt 30EBC 4.9%
0.5kg sucrose 8.2%

65% efficiency (low-ish because of high gravity) OG=1.088, expected FG of around 1.019

Mash at 68C for 60 mins

60 minute boil
25g Chinook 13%AA First Wort Hops
25g Centennial 9.6% AA First Wort Hops
25g Chinook @ 15 mins
25g Centennial @ 15 mins
25g Chinnook Dry hop 5 days
25g Centennial Dry Hop 5 days

Around 95IBU (counting the First Wort Hops as providing the same bitterness as a 20 minute boil.)

Pitch onto about 1/3 of the yeast cake of US-05 from an earlier batch of APA.

Anyone have any comments on the hop schedule? I'm looking for a very citrussy, piney, intensely hoppy beer on this one, but is this still possibly overdoing it with flavour and aroma hops? Maybe dial back the Chinook a little?

I've also got some Nelson Sauvin, NZ Cascade, UK Fuggles and Pac Jade laying around. I reckon with all that Centennial adding Cascade would be kind of pointless. A small amount of Sauvin, maybe as a dry hop might go nicely though...

[Llew Bardecki]

Fiddled with the recipe a bit. This is what I ended up brewing:

Batch Size: 14.00 L
Boil Size: 20.00 L
Boil Time: 75 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.00 kg Pilsner (2 Row) Malteurop (2.0 EBC) Grain 72.99 %
0.50 kg Munich I (Weyermann) (14.0 EBC) Grain 9.12 %
0.30 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - (30 EBC) Grain 5.48 %
0.30 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - (110 EBC) Grain 5.48 %
0.38 kg Sugar, Table (Sucrose) (2.0 EBC) Sugar 6.93 %

15.00 gm Chinook [11.50 %] (75 min) Hops 26.0 IBU
25.00 gm Chinook [11.50 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
25.00 gm Centennial [8.00 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
25.00 gm Centennial [8.00 %] (First Wort)Hops 19.2 IBU
25.00 gm Chinook [11.50 %] (First Wort) Hops 27.6 IBU
25.00 gm Chinook [11.50 %] (15 min) Hops 20.6 IBU
25.00 gm Centennial [8.00 %] (15 min) Hops 14.3 IBU

1.092 OG, 107.6IBU

The sweetest, bitterest wort I've ever produced, by a long way. Smelled and tasted fabulous :)
Dumped it on to the 1/3 yeast cake of US05 and shook the heck out of it for over 10 mins to aerate.
Really looking forward to trying some of this in 6 weeks or so

[JoKing]

Looks good mate. Try some Arrogant Bastard from regionals to give you an idea of what chinook gives to the beer. Also "Old Crustacean" from Hashigo Zake Bar has a good dose of Chinook in there.

I'd love to give this beer a try once it's ready.

[MrC]

I'd love to give this beer a try once it's ready.
It looks like a WnBC Imperial beer to me! Are you planning a trip to Welly for the WnBC Jo?

I'm brewing mine this weekend and can't wait. I haven't brewed a proper beer since Xmas!