The Grain Father

[Peter Smith]

http://www.grainfather.com/

Mangrove Jacks new all grain unit - its nice

[Mark Weusten]

Good to know about the pump Peter

[Paul Finney]

Of what I understand this is a newer version. Andrew who was Mangrove Jacks, has been testing them for a while now making adjustments etc. I wouldn't expect them to rush a product to market that wasn't ready, especially when it takes people away from their core range of kits. 

What sort of problems are you foreseeing, or are we just taking one persons view of it?

[Mark Weusten]

The value in the discussion for me is getting feedback from guys who have built up their own kit who would have more idea with potential issues than I would. For what it is, it looks like a little beauty to me.

[Peter Smith]

especially when it takes people away from their core range of kits. 

If they get this right, every guy that gets a Grainfather will impress his mates and Introduce a few to  homebrew via the traditional kit route ($99 base kit, couple of kit brews, $200, temp controller $80, plus hops for pimping kit ) later, of which maybe 1:5 will go AG eventually....   They are actually growing their entire market.    

And I am pretty sure they will have there own angle on it.  They have the $$ to develop Blichmann quality products, its the retail channel and margins that have stopped imake competing in some spaces vs the direct sales type guys...   They have created enough margin by Chinese manufacturing...  nothing says you cant get decent quality from china if you pay for it and watch QC.   next they have a range of kegging kit, taps, kegs, etc etc etc, basic brew kits are a dying biz in 20 years it will be all grain or fresh wort the old kits won't be around....

a Picobrew has even been sold to NZ, best time EVER to be a home brewer.

iMake are a pretty smart company.

[Peter Scandlyn]

I was gobsmacked recently while in the UK and poking around on matters homebrewing, to be told by the owner of a well known HBS that interest in AG brewing has gone from the market there in favour of kits. Last thing I expected to hear, unfortunately my off-sider wasn't deaf and bang went my pitch for a thinking mash tun :-(

[Grant R Baker]

Nah mate.. AG in UK is still strong.

[Peter Smith]

had no idea so many people have copied  innovated the braumeister design

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=braumeister+clone&es_sm=91&am...

[Mark Weusten]

Demo at Hauraki Homebrew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRByABEdLhA

[Maya Jeferson]

Here's the specs from my Cater Master 40 litre 2kw Urn that I used to use - will be a somewhat useful comparison I guess as it's a 2kw element. Was a test with 37 litres (before I realised that I'd never be heating that much water) so the specs will be slower than what you would get with 25 litres.  Note that the rise from mash out (78 degrees) to boil was over an hour - it got to 95 quickly then took forever to get over 100.
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[Peter Smith]

Without clamping the element to determine its actual amp draw the 2kw rating is an assumption. just like my 48l urn being 38l if measured.

[John H]

As a matter of interest come Monday when the GF is launched - who will be buying one?

+1 from me

It would be neat for the early adopters to compare notes.

[Barry]

Be great for the early adopters to share their experiences. I'm not in the market for one but I'd love to hear how you find it.