Recipe Advice Thread

[denimglen]

Thought it might be handy to have a thread for some of the more advanced brewers to give some advice on recipes.

Let's see how it goes eh...

[David Wood]

Thanks Reviled. I usually get 70-80% with 6kg malt and a 20L sparge. Wont be sparging much here so I'll up the malts a bit to make sure I get the gravity.

[Reviled]

Planning on doing a Partigyle with the leftover malt and sugars??

[David Wood]

Yep, big US hops planned for the leftovers.

[Stu McKinlay]

You could probably add more late hops.
Drop the bitterness a shade if you want to harden... a little CaSO4 will help you there.
I'd add some darker crystal, just a touch, or give it a good 2hr boil, else you'll end up with one of those Euro IPAs (Nogne) that seem more like dry hoppy barleywines than IPAs.

It depends if you want a barleywine to drink now or later!

[jt]

696 this weekend, my 100th grain batch.
Usual bittering @ 60 and then looking at a combo of Cascade, Motueka and Hallertau after that.
I've used Hallertau at 30 & 15 and then Mot & Hallertau at 1 and dry hop.
Thinking about a combo of them together at say 20 15 10 5 & 1 instead

Anyone good any good tips on timing or ratios ?
I read the Mr Malty article on late hopping, should I consider cohumulone level ?

cheers chaps

[Reviled]

696 as in youve brewed that many batches JT?? That is truely awesome!!! Over how many years??

I dont reckon cohumulone needs to be considered as far as late hopping goes, from what ive read it can only impart a harsh bitterness if boiled for a while, so if youre going all late id say it should be fine... Reckon the hop combo youve got looks good!

[JoKing]

I reckon that it really depends on what yo are after mr T.

Personally - I trust the consistency of cascade. I know Motueka is nice, but in larger quantities - it's a bit spicy. Hallertau too is good, but in larger quantities... it can get a bit grassy.... not that you'd use it in those quantities.

With the above in mind, I would look at the following (just to make you life difficult).

20min 10g cascade 5g mot 5g hallertau
15min 10g cascade 5g mot 5g hallertau
10min 15g cascade 7.5g mot 7.5g hallertau
5min 15g cascade 7.5g mot 7.5g hallertau
1min 20g cascade 10g mot 10g hallertau

That is 140g of hops though... maybe a bit much for what you normally brew.

At least you'd get a smack in the face with the aroma...?

With that amount of hops - you probably wouldn't need a bittering addition at 60mins.

[jt]

What do I want ?
A nice beer to drink !

Yes, I've been mown down by larger amounts of Hallertau in the past. No problems with Cascade or Mot late yet, but I haven't gone to the same extent as I did with the Hallertau

Not sure if I'll got 1.050 as it's a 'special' or leave it at the standard 1.040
Either way, IBU about 60 - 70% of OG

I like the combo I've used, but it needs some tweaking and I hadn't been able to figure it out myself.
The skew to the cascade and away from the Hallertau might be the way to go
Might just drop the Hallertau back a bit from your idea there Joe

[Matthew]

You need to go big for the Century! Hit that 1.050 and drop all those hops in. You know you want to.

[JoKing]

Yeah - I'm with Matthew... one small step out of your comfort zone for a special brew. You could bottle it and only serve it on special occasions.

No doubt the beer would be nice to drink... I'd brew that.

[jt]

I dont reckon cohumulone needs to be considered as far as late hopping goes
Hmm, the article had conflicting opinions - the suggestions and my own experience suggest not

With that amount of hops - you probably wouldn't need a bittering addition at 60mins.
Probably not, but I've got to sneak some Super Alpha in there somewhere ;-)

I see the evil twin recipe didn't have a bittering addition - and interestingly was a very low BU:OG value too

bottle it and only serve it on special occasions
Never. Brew, drink and (hopefully) enjoy
(I think that answers Mr Cherry's question elsewhere - keg !)

I prefer to keep my hops simple
Me too, usually just a bittering and late hop. But I've been using these three and they have almost all the right flavours, but it's like they're just not in the right place

pale ales is 60, 15, 5, 0 & dry.
I've been forgetting the 5 min addition lately, must get back to that

[Chris Banks]

Mine schedule for pale ale is 60,30,15,1,0,dry.
What sort of difference is there between 1 and 5 min dya reckon?