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Thought it might be handy to have a thread for some of the more advanced brewers to give some advice on recipes.

Let's see how it goes eh...

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Personally I tend to prefer caramunich over the crystal, so id swap the 60 with some cara-aroma.. Not really sure about amounts, 150g is nice but it depends.
Speaking of wheat, I just had a go at my Experiwheat and, man is that different!

You are talking about wheat crispening things up a bit.. well I can say, that at 60% wheat is very crisp! Even at those sorts of percentages, it doesn't lend much flavour - or body... very dry - you know, like cranberry juice (sort of).

Anyway - wheat is very common in a lot of English recipes for adding a bit of fluff to the head. They use torrified wheat for that too.
What are all the hops and bitterness like in a wheaty? Is it like an American wheat or something?
It's like a shandy, in a way. There is beer flavour in there, but the wheat is quite lemony on it's own. It finished at 1.008 - even with a 68 degree mash and it has this soft bitterness from the Nugget. I wouldn't even say it was like an American wheat - the ones I had of those were like German ones without the Banana... Maybe American Hefe yeast would be good for your Roggenbier type of thing.

It's still a bit green - but it is the perfect summer session beer... even at 5.9%

You can only just taste the alcohol in it amongst the lemon grass - it's very interesting.
Yum, ill have to have a taste on the 4th :o)
Hi Martin,

I recently brewed this:

5kg Marris Otter
200g crystal
150 g roasted barley
150 g pale chocolate

I used the wyeast West yorkshire (very nice). I too was trying to acheive an ale with a more complex malt character. I think that yeast, is most excellent for what you are trying to achieve. Malts, are whatever you are trying to achieve, as far as taste is concerned. I tried a stepped mash, in order to achieve a more complex characteristic.

I think I acheived my aim, only I think the brew has contracted an infection, in the secondary (totally bummed). The first time this has happened to me, I'll see how it develops?
Why do you think its infected Tony?? Off flavours??
There was a white, powdery flecks floating on top and it smelled a little phenollicy. I did taste test it and it didn't taste off, but then it hasn't conditioned yet. I did bottle it in the hope that it was a figment of my imagination. Time will tell. I was very happy with how it tasted out of the hydrometer tube and there were definative complex malt characters early on. It finished up at 6.8%ABV, so it is a real kicker.
I too am looking at at brewing a porter style beer with similar malts. I have:
Marris Otter
Pale Choc
Chocolate
Light Crystal
Cara-aroma.

I was thinking of hopping with US Wilamette & NZ cascade to around 35ibus and using US-05 (unless my northwest ale yeast turns up by friday). Any thoughts on splitting the grain bill?
Watch out for the Cara-aroma!!
What do you mean watch out for it?
Its powerfull stuff!!!

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