Mine's fermenting now. I used this years NZ Goldings - they smell awesome. If I get to come up this time - I'll be judging, so don't worry Barry: I promise style will be on the fore.
Dammit! I tried to make a non-hoppy beer and it appears to have failed miserably. My Porter tastes like Pot Kettle Black, which ain't so bad but not what I was after. Stupid Nelson Sauvin!
2.5KG Golden Promise
1.5KG Gladfields Ale
.8Kg Crystal 120L
.35Kg Choc Malt
.2Kg Black Malt
60 Min Boil, mashed @68C
50G Pacific Gem @ 60 Min
30G Hallertauer in the fermenter when pitching
S-04
Ended up with 20L
Fermented out in 3 days 1.054 OG, 1.014FG,
will be adding 2 ounces of fresh C4 Krank coffee beans (based on some american coffee porter I read about), crushed in the grain mill, throw them in friday morn, bottle sat morn.
Is tasting fairly bitter at this stage so may need some time in the bottle, the Krank coffee is very nice, roasty, not bitter, but hence only one day in as I dont want to add any more bitterness if I can help it.. (and surprised it isnt sweeter tbh given what ive read about crystal...)
again, another made up, hobbled together from various recipes I found here and on the net...was a little worried about the large amount of crystal, but meh, f*ck it, Im still learning so Im just hoping for a happy accident...
In my experience (not all that extensive) it seems that the crystal sweetness takes a while to come through. 3 weeks in the bottle and its carbonated and drinking ok with the hops dominating but 3 weeks after that there is more of a sweetness about it.
It could be that the hops smooth out a bit and let the crystal through rather than an increase in crystal. Similar to the effect of letting v cold beer warm up a little.
Yeah that's definitely the case. It's why hoppy beers are best fresh, before they diminish and the malt sneaks into the equation. It depends a lot on the yeast also. Even malt-focused beers are better with a bit of time for the flavours to fully develop.
and, on this note... hoppy black beers, from my limited experience, seem to rise in perceived hop flavour/aroma over a period of a couple of months... I guess it is the malt settling down and allowing the hops to shine through that little bit more.
Yep I also find that, a good malty beer definately takes a good couple of weeks conditioning before all those yummy malt flavours come through in force!