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You are so right... I'm struggling with the tail end of this keg, the flavours are nearly there - and as hard as I tried, I couldn't get it to dry out... the yeast spewed the hell out of my starter which fucked my pitching rate...

Sounds like a shit excuse but it's true. Then my jar broke before I could brew it again - a little warmer this time.

Thanks for the feedback too - it's exactly what I needed to hear - 1.014 wont cut it with these beers.
how much sugar did you use? and when did you add it?

your story reminds me of my fist use of the white labs achouffe... it spewed out of the vial and I ended up with a small starter and a pale ale that was drinkable but a little under-attnuated and too DMSey to be quaffable.
Did you try to crank up the temp over the last few days of fermentation? Not sure how high the trappist yeast can handle but 25 deg ish might help drop the FG a few more points. I'll be using this strategy come brew day for the dubbel, so will see how I go.
Hurry up and try my Belgian Rye Stu ;o) lol - it was brewed at the same time as Mike and Jos Dubbel, I was going for a similair thing but in the hope that the rye and styrians would add the spicy element - id be keen to know some comparison notes!

We did a side by side with all three in new plymouth - three quite different beers IMO
Also - Joseph stop bloody dropping your yeast cultures!! Those poor yeasties work hard for you - theyre our friends and you go and drop them on the floor? :oP hahaha

Might be time to switch to PET?
Hey, I can sort you out. Just propagating at the moment so give me a day or two and the chance to sort out an appropriate vessel and I'll have something in the post.
Mate - you are the man.

More Naked Poppy coming your way.

Cheers.

P.S. I love realbeer... what a network!
Looks nice Bambule... Reckon you'd like it more if you can chuck some extra Cascade at 15 though... and maybe a wee pich of Sauvin to boost the fruit. Your call though, I don't want to twinkle on your toes..
Actually I just remembered I've got some sauvin, mayble I'll use that instead of Cent, or 50-50 it with something else.
Just a pinch... it'll lift the US hop flavour without imparting too much of its own character.
Hmmm, maybe I'll go 75-25 US Cascade-Sauvin.

I don't really like cent that much anyway.
Biting my lip...

I'll take that centennail of your hands dog...

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