NZ Goldings

[denimglen]

How does everyone find them?

How do you think they'd (100% of hop bill) go with 100% UK Pale Ale malt (Baird's) and S05? Was pretty staunch on brewing this but with three average batches in a row kinda want something fail-proof.

Cheers.

[Doublehoppy]

Can't see too much wrong with that. Looks like a grand ordinary bitter to me. 33IBU is about right IMO. Can't comment about the S04 as I haven't used it much.

My attempts at english bitter have been sadly disappointing (with a couple of exceptions). Maybe because I used to drink this stuff all the time and know how magnificent it can be.

[denimglen]

Cheers Doublehoppy.

Joking, 70g for 20ishL? What was the schedule if you don't mind? I've got enough to do that but if I'm gonna use it all I think I'd rather use it with something else and make an IPA.

Leaning towards the bitter at the mo.

[JoKing]

For your info, Glen this is the brewday...

West Coast Blonde
6-B Blonde Ale
Author: Joseph Wood
Date: 29/12/2008

Size: 23.04 L
Efficiency: 82.0%
Attenuation: 85.0%
Calories: 175.71 kcal per 12.0 fl oz

Original Gravity: 1.054 (1.038 - 1.054)
Terminal Gravity: 1.008 (1.008 - 1.013)
Color: 3.08 (3.0 - 6.0)
Alcohol: 5.98% (3.8% - 5.5%)
Bitterness: 21.0 (15.0 - 28.0)

Ingredients:
5 kg Golden Promise Pale
8.0 g Simcoe (12.3%) - added during boil, boiled 60 min
22.0 g Simcoe (12.3%) - added during boil, boiled 10.0 min
22.0 g Simcoe (12.3%) - added during boil, boiled 1 min
20.0 g Simcoe (12.3%) - added in secondary for 10 days
.6 g Carageenan - added during boil, boiled 10 min
.2 g Servomyces - added during boil, boiled 10 min
1 ea Fermentis US-05 Safale US-05

Schedule:
Ambient Air: 21.11 °C
Source Water: 15.56 °C
Elevation: 0.0 m

00:32:45 Mash In - Liquor: 12.5 L; Strike: 74.35 °C; Target: 67 °C
01:32:45 Saccharification Rest - Rest: 60.0 min; Final: 67.0 °C
01:33:45 Untitled Step - Water: 5.04 L; Temperature: 98.0 °C; Target: 75 °C
02:18:45 Sparge - Sparge: 13.26 L sparge @ 76.7 °C, 25.9 L collected, 45.0 min; Total Runoff: 26.55 L

I have to learn to stop drinking out of the fermenter though. Thats a whole litre that wont find its way to the keg.

[denimglen]

Cheers mate, think I'll go with the bitter this time and brew a IPA next with the simcoe, columbus and something else maybe.

[Stu McKinlay]

The cask style best bitters I have made both used Wyeast 1099.
S04 struggles a bit on these beers I reckon.

[JoKing]

Do you have any bitter ATM Stu? I wouldn't mind seeing what's out there from homebrewers. Could swap with some TTL when its ready... (hope the earwigs didn't give it a pedio gnarlyness).

[Stu McKinlay]

No, nothing right now. I might try and brew some around March. I've got the 1469 yeast too, so I'll try one with that. Low gravity, 1.035isg and about 20ibu, crystal and amber (or maybe a touch of roast). I'll let you know.

All Belgian at my place right now... plus my imperial stout which I've hidden and am trying not to think about.

[Kempicus]

IMPERIAL STOUT GOOOOOOOOOODDD!!! ;0)

[denimglen]

Cheers, it's gonna have to be s04. I could do WLP023 burton ale but don't have time to build it up. I'm not too fond of that yeast anyways.

I think I'll go with that recipe (Cheers Stu!) unless anyone reckons that ho schedule will be ultra fail.

BTW Stu, if this sucks it's your fault :-P

[Greig McGill]

Bah, as well as Munich, bitters which win awards use S04. ;) I do agree about suppressing hop character though. I have discovered that dropping the dry hop addition at 2 days which I've always done results in a much fresher, cleaner tasting beer though with nice ester production. I'm almost inclined to think the S04 was being hindered somehow by dry hopping.

If anyone is interested, here's Saxbys Ordinary Bitter - I like it, your mileage may vary.

(Sorry, the Crystal is not 60L - I've just never changed the recipe, I think it's closer to 80L)

Batch Size: 21.00 L
Boil Size: 25.97 L
Estimated OG: 1.040 SG
Estimated Color: 6.8 SRM
Estimated IBU: 29.5 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.30 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 91.67 %
0.20 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 5.56 %
0.10 kg Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 2.78 %
15.00 gm Green Bullet [11.00 %] (60 min) Hops 23.5 IBU
50.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [4.20 %] (10 min) Hops 6.0 IBU
30.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [4.20 %] (0 min) Hops 0 IBU
1 Pkgs SafAle English Ale (DCL Yeast #S-04) Yeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body
Total Grain Weight: 3.60 kg
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Single Infusion, Medium Body
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 9.39 L of water at 74.4 C 67.8 C
10 min Mash Out Add 5.26 L of water at 91.5 C 75.6 C

[Kempicus]

And a damn good beer it is too! I've not tried the non-dryhopped version but if it's better than the usual that's all good!
I've always said that i hate the name of it because 'ordinary' does not do it justice! maybe 'extaordinary' would be a much better name

[denimglen]

Shit that's a lot of hops...maybe I should up mine?

What do you find is a good temp for S04?

Cheers.