S-05 Suspension

[Mike Neilson]

Just wanting to know how long is everyone waiting for the S-05 to clean up the beer? Every beer I ferment with S05 leaves me with a cloudy beer out of fermenter (Even sitting for 3 weeks). I have split Fermented a control using S-04 to see if this has been bad practice. After 7 days the S-04 is crystal clear and the S-05 is just like other S05 brew I have brewed. I have one at the moment that looks like a good Wit and believe it or not tastes like one also? Heres the recipe to prove it aint.

5.00 kg Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (3.9 EBC)
100g Cara-Pils/Dextrine (3.9 EBC)
10gm Nelson Sauvin [11.40 %] (15 min)
60gm Cascade US Plugs [6.80 %] (15 min)
30gm Cascade US Pellets [6.30 %] (10 min)
5 gm Challenger [7.50 %] (0 min)
30gm Cascade US Pellets [6.30 %] (0 min)
10gm Nelson Sauvin [11.40 %] (0 min)

1 Pkgs S-05

[Mike Neilson]

Bloody good fermentation has slowed down and is at 1.040. It better get below 1.029, but I do have a fair Idea if I dos'nt, Also I had a look in the hop Freezer this morning and realized I used 30g of super alpha as my 1 min addittion instead of 60g of fuggles, OPPS!!!. I got the Imperial yeast ordered how do I go about getting some to you?

[JoKing]

No panic on this matter mate - I'll be using a couple a packs of US05 for my USIIPA. I wouldn't mind catching up with you Welly boys for a drink, so could look at swapping some yeast, beer and bullshit then.

[Mike Neilson]

Sounds good!!

[Stu McKinlay]

Try S-33. I've used it once and was pleasantly surprised. Leaves a better malt profile than S04, I reckon.
I've got another packet in the fridge now but I'm giving it away to Craig (kiwicrog) this afternoon. I'll make it a condition that he reports back on it ;-)

[MrC]

That's funny. According to JoKing, S-33 is the yeast that comes with the Macs Pale Ale kits. I've been throwing them away!

I put about 5 of them at the back of the fridge last year just in case, I might give them a go.

[JoKing]

It was when I called Lion, and asked them about a year or so ago. If you call the phone number on the tin, and give them the batch number Mr Cherry - they'll let you know what strain they are using. If you have any lager kits - give them the batch number for that too. If you are lucky they'll have w34/70 in there. You cant get that in NZ anymore, and it was a great strain.

[JoKing]

And I agree with Stu - s-33 is a nice strain. For me, it was quite neutral at lower temps with a little more hops getting through than s-04.

[Stu McKinlay]

According to Fermentis, you're using a Belgian Style yeast. I'd read other places that it was an English yeast (Edme?) and used it in an ordinary (split with S04 in the other fermenter). Preferred the S-33 to be honest.

[JoKing]

I would agree with most of the things on the fermentis link... "A very popular general purpose yeast, displaying both very robust conservation properties and consistent performance" and I would have to assume they refer to its use in Belgian style beers given its tollerance to high alcohol.

However I have to say in my experience, that the only flavour profile it lended my beer was softer maltiness. Sort of "chewy" in a way. Hard to explain - improved mouthfeel compared to s-04? Slick? Wasn't spicy at all (like the t-58) not even fruity really.

[Stu McKinlay]

Funny you mention that because I remember leaving a "lollyish" profile in the malt... I also remember thinking it would be a nice yeast to use if I was going to brew a base beer to innoculate with brett' as an Orval clone.

[JoKing]

Good thinking Stu - I'm planning a lambic brew for around Anzac day (when Christina pops) and cracking into it on the baby's 1st birthday. My wife loves Kreik and I was gonna split the lambic onto a few different fruits in some Demijohns. I have cultured some Orval dregs along with some of Steve's brett from Hallertau.

LMK If you want some dirty bugs for your Lambic Stu - the pellicle is starting to form in my culture, and it smells quite Pine Appley with a touch of wet swetty wool work socks.

I was gonna use US-05 for the primary - but you may have swayed me. Hey Cherry - you got any spare S-33?

[MrC]

Yip, no worries. I'll add you as a friend & send you a PM for your address.