When is a brewbar not a brewbar?

[Geoff Griggs]

Martin Bennett of The Twisted Hop asked me this question this morning and it's got me thinking.

Should the term "brewbar" only be used if the establishment has its own brewery (as in "brewpub"), or doesn't it really matter?

Your thoughts please...

[Ally Mcg]

My 10c

I'd favour only calling the pub a brewpub when the brewery it uses is onsite, a la the Twisited. If the pub has a brewery, not on site, well, then it should be called a pub.

Happy to be pursuaded that I am wrong

[JoKing]

I still consider the Cock and Bull a type of Brew Bar. Just because the beer is brewed offsite doesn't make it any less a brew bar that Hallertau, Twisted hop, Dux DeLux etc. The main reason being that it is the only place you can get those beers.

Just my 2c.

[MrC]

Wouldn't that make any Lion or DB bar a Brewbar?

EDIT: I just re-read you last sentence, maybe you have a point there.

[MrC]

I think the term Brewbar should be reserved for establishments that brew and sell there own beer, if they don't brew then they are just a bar. They wouldn't refer to themselves as a winerybar just because they sell wine would they?

[Reviled]

"The main reason being that it is the only place you can get those beers."

+1, I dont reckon it nessecarily has to be brewed on premises, allthough that does make it a hell of alot cooler!

[Stu McKinlay]

I don't think there should be any rules. I know what a brewpub is, someone else may call it a brewbar (or a pub with a brewery). Twisted Hop is one. So is Galbraith's. Hallertau too. I'm sure there are some others but these are a few that i've visited and seen a working brewery at. I know it got up Keith's nose a little bit when Speight's set up their "ale house" around the corner. I can see why. Most people don't really care.

[MrC]

Isn't it false advertising though to call your establishment a brewbar when at no time is any brewing performed (unless it refers to the coffee). It would be like calling a brewery a brewbar when it doesn't have a bar.

[Sam Possenniskie (TGM)]

Isn't it the "Brewery Tap" when a brewery has it's own pub?

[jt]

When is a brewbar not a brewbar?

Simple, when it doesn't brew. It's a misrepresentation to me if it doesn't brew

[Stu McKinlay]

but they sell "brew".
and a winebar sells "wine".

every bar is a winebar or a brewbar. it just depends how much they want it.

[jt]

And a shoeshop makes shoes ?

Then what about a chain of Brewery Bars ?

[Geoff Griggs]

Not sure I agree with you there Stu.

Sure a winebar sells "wine", but I would argue that a brewbar doesn't sell "brew", it brews (and sells) "beer".