There were some great reviews of Barry's Ordinary Bitter in the case swap, why not try that ?
He used SO4, which should be relatively easy to get in Welly at short notice.
SO4 does get some bad press, hopwise, but I think he gave his fermentation regime in the What Are You Brewing Thread which should go some way to appeasing the hop ?
Considering a Bock as im getting some Munich Lager yeast shortly - Ive got a few questions tho before I post my Bock recipe
1st of all - For a 1080 OG apparantly im gonna need a bloody 8.74 litre starter?!?!?! So I was thinking of just doing a low OG 10 litre ale of say 1040ish to build up the yeast - So whats gonna work well for this? Can I ferment it warm or should I ferment cold? Any Ideas, hints, tips or tricks??
Edit : I just worked out that 1 can of extract should give me 1046 at 10 litres - Should I just use this as a starter with no hops and ferment warm then tip it?
Yeah Doppelbock, may as well make me a winter warmer aye ;o) Ill post the recipe soon, still working on it as we type
Probably gonna have to harvest after the primary's finished, crash it down then dump on the yeast cake.. Even better - was thinking I could just get a shitty kit from the supermarket and use that!
Considering ill be tipping this, do I need to build up a small starter for my 10litre batch? Or does it not matter?
In what form is the original yeast? If it's a tube, or smackpack it will pay to start it in a pint first, thenpitch at 20... drop to 14 until terminal... CC... dump beer... pitch doppelbock. Should be about a week of mucking around first.
If you're super duper clean - you'll be able to do both fermentations in the same fermenter... One question though - how will you get your Doppelbock wort down to 10 degrees before dumping it onto the yeast cake? Would you do this in your kettle (in the freezer)?
Ill def be doing both ferments in the same fermenter. And youre spot on, no chill overnight in the kettle, then put the kettle in my chest freezer with a fresh whack of iodophor on the lid and crash it down to pitching temp.. Prolly better that way than pitching warm and crash cooling to ferment temp..
Im prolly gonna do it in a cube so I can ferment in my fridge (sits between 10-12*)and keep my freezer for my kegs - allthough 10*c serving temp aint bad I guess?