NZ Pilsener Malt

[Paul Broome]

Who's using this malt and what do you think of it ?

What differences if any, are you picking up with NZ Pils from say, Weyermann or English ?

Would you continue to use it, based on price or results ?

Cheers.

Paul.

[Tim Stewart]

Its my main malt I use and great stuff ,I only live 20 mins away from the Malteurop factory and get a 25kg bag for $60 great price really. I can get a easy 100liters of +5% beer out of a bag, if its NZ pilsen malt it will be Malteurop

[Mark Meyburg]

Hi - what sort of hops are you using.  I have made several using sazz but hoping to change to all nz ingredients.  WOuld you care to share your recipe.  Cheers

[Paul Broome]

not sure if thats directed at Tim or me ???

I've been trying all Perle recently but have also done Tetnanger.  Both of which I like very much.  I too would like to start using all NZ hops.

Recipe is:

Stella Lite Lager:

All Distilled water for mash and sparge.

5.3 kg NZ Pils

Carapils 80 gms

CaCl x2 teasp into mash

Perle @ 60mins 27gms

Perle @ 10mins 10 gms

Irish Moss@ 10mins

Perle @ 5mins 5 gms

Wyeast Danish 2042. x5 Litre starter (stir plate)

Mash 90 mins

OG 26 L 1.046

Primary 8.0 C

FG 1.006

IBU's 27.9

 

I don't secondary these days, I leave the primary alone for a week after completion then bottle and bulk prime. Lagering takes place in the bottles, 6 weeks at between 0 and 1 degree C.

 

 

[Paul Broome]

I can't spot the Add New Discussion button so I'm tacking it on here:

Anyone in the Waikato interested in exchanging Yeast ? I started a frozen yeast bank three years ago with 5 strains and have added a couple more. I'm interested in adding a few more. Contact me if you're keen.

[Chris Mills]

I like it as a good base malt to work with. If you are brewing ales you might look at blending other malts with it for greater depth of character in the finished beer. I find I get a slightly lower efficiency with Malteurop Pale Malt than I do with Pale Malts like Gladfields, Marris Otter, or Golden Promise.

I also really like the idea working with local ingredients.

[jt]

Lower efficiency ?
Funny, I use this all the time and I'm happy with my consistent 80% efficiency. Happy with the malt too
Talking to Jo when I decided I needed to try some golden promise, he said that I might notice a drop in the extract from the tf golden promise
So I'm looking at my next recipes with the expectation that I'm only going to get 75% or so

And I second the local ingredients sentiment wholeheartedly

Cheers, jt

[Chris Mills]

It's a very subtle difference - 80% vs 78%. I find they are nearly equal for extraction.

[jt]

Is that a consistent figure through a few batches ?
I find I get variations as much from a change in method as much as ingredients

[Chris Mills]

Yes - admittedly it's only from a couple of bags of Malteurop against a couple of bags of Gladfields, one of Marris Otter and another of Golden Promise. Since I'm only brewing 50L at a time the efficiency is not so much of an issue as it would be if I were brewing larger batches.

I do get slightly better efficiency from a ramp mash  from 50C up to 70C (for big Belgian ales), but it's a pain to do it and I prefer single-step infusion for most everything else.

[Paul Broome]

Chris, the second time I used MaltEurope Pils was also the first time I used Distilled water for a Pale lite lager. I got a huge jump in efficiency, still not entirely sure why, but I put it down to the distilled water plus some CaCl I added to the mash.
The first time I used ME Pils I got my usual eff.