Honey off flavour in pilsner / lager

[Mark Meyburg]

My lagers tend to always have a honey flavour . I see this is pentainedione.
I control the temperature 12 c and now use 34 / 70

Any ideas on avoiding or reducing this flavour

Cheers Mark

[Grant R Baker]

Your recipe may help determine what is amiss (just malt and yeast will do, probaly not coming from the hops).

I can't say I have honey flavours in any lager... so you have me interested.

[Mark Meyburg]

Hi Grant

Here is the recipe

96.5%Pilsner Malt

2.3% Caramunich

Caramalt 1.3 %

Riwaka and Motueka Hops

16C for first 24 hours then 12 C for two weeks then warm rest at 18C for two days. Then crash cooled

Cheers Mark

[Hamish Jones]

Did you do a Diacetyl rest on your ferment at all, how is the mouth feel on the beers is it buttery at all,

I tend to do my lagers at around 10 c then bring up to 18 c for a couple of days then back down to 10 c and drop 1 degree a day until its about 3 degrees and let it sit for a while before kegging or bottling, I found this gets rid of the off flavours produced pretty well,

try fermenting that way next time and see how you get on

[Mark Meyburg]

Hi Hamish - not buttery. Probably having let it sit on yeast for long enough at cold before kegging. I will try this thanks