CROUCHER PATRIOT

[Darrin Smith]

Anyone had a crack at replicating Croucher Patriot?  Id love to have a go at it and instead of working blind I thought id check out the knowledge base on here..........

 

 

cheers

Darrin

[Barry]

It's fairly roasty but not acrid. Heavily hopped with what I'm guessing is cascade/amarillo and simcoe.

OG I'd venture about 1.056, FG probably around 1.012. IBUs dunno, actually fairly balanced rather than bitter so lots of late additions and dry hopping.

Total guess starting point here, off the top of my head without any calculations, to suit the efficiency of my brewery:

4.8kg pale (I'd use maris otter or golden promise because that's what I have on hand)

400gm medium crystal

200gm brown

200gm chocolate

200gm black patent

There's probably no brown in Patriot, but I like the extra depth it gives me in these kinds of beers.

 

60 minute addition of Southern Cross - 15gm

15 and 5 minute additions of cascade 30gm and simcoe 20gm

dry hop after 5 days with 50gm each of cascade and simcoe.

 

White labs 001, wyeast 1056 or 1272, or S05.

 

Discuss.

 

 

[Barry]

Ah, gut was right - Amarillo not cascade:

http://blog.croucherbrewing.co.nz/2010/09/croucher-patriot-american...

 

I'm probably about the right gravity, maybe a touch high, but probably too strong on the roasted malts and I'd say almost definitely no brown after reading that.

 

[Darrin Smith]

i guessed the chocolate :)  but never used black patent so dont know what to look for in taste.  thanks for that Bazza ill give it a go.  I have amarillo and ill sub the simcoe.

 

[Ralph]

Anyone brewed the recipe guess. Was it close?

[JumpR]

was at the Crouchers bar in Tauranga yesterday, and the table menu mentions falconers flight hops..

[Ralph]

Yeh... am partial to the original and so would brew one with simcoe and amarillo.

[Peter Smith]

Its amazing how often theses two hops pair with a mainly pale ale base and about 5-8% crystal...  in published clone beers.   I am trying to find a great video from the AHB conference but its proving difficult, its about simplicity in brewing and not using too many malts I think he calls it 2 + 2 brewing 2 hops and 2 malts...

 

[Crusader-Rob]

Its a top beer. just bottled up a black IPA at 6%, I would suggest that the  darker malts maybe something along the lines of carafa, similar to 21st amendment back in black but with a lower OG