Guessing you're using UK pale malt to start. I'd to up close to 10%, with a lot of bitterness and hop flavour/aroma. I like 'em big and bittersweet. Most people like 'em dry, so maybe 6% is good. 4% caramunich II and 2% caraamber???
Yum, the thought of it is making me thirsty.
today I was off work with a cold. sneezing and blocked nose, generally infectious. so stayed home, but wasn't feeling that bad and could smell a little bit so, at a leisurely pace, starting at 12.30 or so and going until pitching the yeast at 8.40 i made my once a year attempt at a traditional Oktoberfest type beer:
4.2kg Vienna
500g Pils
500g Dark Munich
NZ Pac Hallertau to 24IBU
s-189
20L, was pitched with slurry from yeast cake of previous beer at OG 1058 and 12 C.
In the two previous years I have also made a version of this beer. The first time I had either bad luck or bad management with a yeast starter and it started waaaay slow (more than a week) and required a repitch and was horrid (drank it though, i'm not a throwouter); last year it tasted ok but was pretty bland and the OG came in lower than I wanted (52 or so), so was more of a high-ish vienna than a festbier. today all seemed ok, but proof in the pudding. thanks Al for holding the malt for me, nice to catch up last night and have a chat.
also today bottled a franconian-type dunkel made 3 weeks ago and which also started horribly slow but i pitched plenty and the yeast eventually came out of their cold slumber and, from a hydrometer sample and 300ml remnants of the fermenter when i bottled, it seems they've done a good job. more caramel and more hoppy than a munich dunkel, and in six weeks or so with conditioning and lagering, hopefully bloody nice.
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Hey stu,
because I only have a wimpy gas ring to heat the wort, my boil is about an hour longer than I'd like it to be....hence, first hops added after 90 mins. last hops added were indeed a flame out addition and the final volume was 45L.
It's not actually that bitter but it has plenty of flavour and aroma :)
If you leave the lid on until you reach boil it will quicken it up, then record your times when boil has started.
It takes me about an hour to reach boil after sparge, 1/12 without lid, I leave my lid partially on during the boil now too, tilted to allow steam out, it helps provide a better boil.