Recipe Advice Thread

[denimglen]

Thought it might be handy to have a thread for some of the more advanced brewers to give some advice on recipes.

Let's see how it goes eh...

[Peter Smith]

Has anyone got any idea what the recipe is for Yeastie Boys White Noise....

[Richard Rice]

It's not the whole recipe, but their webpage gives you the basics:

http://www.yeastieboys.co.nz/beer/WHT/

So obviously it's mostly Pilsner; Torrified Wheat for head retention; Oats for mouthfeel.  It's a white ale, not a wheat beer, so   Egyptian Chamomile?  Maybe just find some organic Chamomile tea and dump some tea bags in or use a coffee filter and drop it in the fermenter after krausen has dropped.

I'm no expert in breaking down recipes, but I'd go maybe 85% Pilsner, 10% oats and 5% torrified wheat.  Could go higher in the adjuncts, I guess...I use 25% flaked barley in my Guinness Clone, so possibly could go that high with the oats?

http://www.fermentis.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/SFA_K97.pdf - I've never seen K-97 but there would be suitable subs - any liquid Wheat beer yeast, Safale WB-06 for a dry version?

 

[Crusader-Rob]

Yeastie are Open Source. E mail stu, I'm sure he will be happy to provide some more in depth information. He gave me Plan B ages ago (I'vesince lost that one)

[David R]

I've been thinking about brewing a red malty beer with a fair bit of rye and a subtle-but-noticable whack of fruity US hops, something along the lines of Garage Project Líl Red Rye perhaps. I'm still pretty new at formulating recipes and how various malts work together, but how does this look for a starting point?

1.058 OG

3.50 kg	Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)	Grain	1	55.4 %
1.10 kg	Rye Malt (4.7 SRM)	Grain	2	17.4 %
1.00 kg	Munich Malt (9.0 SRM)	Grain	3	15.8 %
0.40 kg	Carared (20.0 SRM)	Grain	4	6.3 %
0.16 kg	Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM)	Grain	5	2.5 %
0.16 kg	Chocolate Rye Malt (250.0 SRM)	Grain	6	2.5 %

[Nick Good]

Hawkes Bay brewery, Amber?

Has anyone got an amber AG recipe that comes close to this beer?

I had to wait for an overseas visitor to go up the sky tower recently and found a little pub on Victoria st. selling this stuff. It was so nice    that I could have sat there all day drinking it. It is low hopped and not a heavy dark amber.

I don't know if it is Irish or American style so I don't know what to look for recipe wise.

Any ideas?

[Sam DT]

I've been putting together a red IPA recipe keen to hear any thoughts or comments.

Basically aiming for mainly NZ style hop flavor/aroma but with some cascade to balance out the fruitiness (similar to Chur hop combo). On the malt front I'm thinking of using pilsner as the base malt to let the red colour really come through - some red IPAs that I've had have been quite dark / brown so you don't get the full red unless you hold it up to the light.

I haven't included any crystal but am thinking that the combo of gladiator /aurora / redback and shep D should hopefully provide sufficient malt and mouth feel balance to the lighter pilsner base.

Est Original Gravity: 1.065 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.014 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.7 %
Bitterness: 57.2 

Boil: 90 Minutes

Yeast: WLP001

5.50 kg	Gladfield Pilsner Malt (3.8 EBC)	77.50%
0.50 kg	Gladfield Red Back Malt (65.0 EBC)	7.00%
0.35 kg	Gladfield Gladiator Malt (10.0 EBC)	4.90%
0.35 kg	Gladfield Shepherds Delight Malt (300.0 EBC)	4.90%
0.20 kg	Gladfield Aurora Malt (58.0 EBC)	2.80%
0.20 kg	Gladfield Sour Grapes Malt (4.0 EBC)	2.80%
35.00 g	Nelson Sauvin [11.60 %] - Boil 60.0 min	36.8 IBUs
0.50 Items	Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins)	-
30.00 g	Cascade [7.20 %] - Boil 10.0 min	7.1 IBUs
30.00 g	Motueka [8.10 %] - Boil 10.0 min	8.0 IBUs
20.00 g	Motueka [8.10 %] - Boil 10.0 min	5.3 IBUs
30.00 g	Cascade [7.20 %] - Boil 0.0 min	0.0 IBUs
30.00 g	Motueka [8.10 %] - Boil 0.0 min	0.0 IBUs
20.00 g	Nelson Sauvin [11.60 %] - Boil 0.0 min	0.0 IBUs
30.00 g	Cascade [7.20 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days	0.0 IBUs
30.00 g	Motueka [8.10 %] - Dry Hop 0.0 Days	0.0 IBUs
20.00 g	Nelson Sauvin [11.60 %] - Dry Hop 0.0 Days	0.0 IBUs

[Dan]

Im planning a nut brown ale this weekend and keen to try something a bit different. This recipe is based on one from "Radical Brewing" but , in addition, Im keen to try 100-200g of toasted vogels bread crumbs in the mash.( would add at vorlauf). Anyone see any negatives with adding breadcrumbs to the mash??

[David R]

It's a touch embarrassing, but in the for-or-so years I've been brewing I've only ever done one beer with NZ hops; a Digital IPA clone. I'm about to brew a hop-burst session IPA (or what ever you want to call it) with Simcoe, Amarillo and Citra, and if like to brew a fairly similar one with a big dose of NZs finest. I'm not a big fan of Sauvin, so was thinking of going with Motueka, Riwaka and Cascade. I'd love some suggestions/advice on ratios and other possible combos for a beer like this. Here's the grain bill.

1.044 OG, 4.5% ABV

3.40 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 1 76.7 %
0.45 kg Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 2 10.2 %
0.40 kg Carared (20.0 SRM) Grain 3 9.0 %
0.10 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 4 2.3 %
0.08 kg Chocolate Wheat Malt (400.0 SRM) Grain 5 1.8 %

[Dan]

Have a look at this post from Richard Jack http://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/group/nzcaseswap/forum/topics/cs8-t...

This was an amazing beer and I regularly use this hopping schedule for beers. Try using the Pacifica instead of the Cascade - you won't be disappointed! The recipes are quite similar too - maybe drop the choc wheat?

[David R]

Cheers, good read indeed. Unfortunately I didn't see this before going shopping yesterday, so the grains are as above, and I've got 50g of Sauvin, 50G Cascade, 80g Riwaka and 80g Motueka to play with. At the moment this is what I've come up with,, works out at about 38IBU.

12.00 g	Nelson Sauvin [10.80 %] - Boil 30.0 min	Hop	6	10.8 IBUs
10.00 g	Cascade [7.20 %] - Boil 15.0 min	Hop	7	3.9 IBUs
10.00 g	Motueka [6.60 %] - Boil 15.0 min	Hop	8	3.6 IBUs
8.00 g	Nelson Sauvin [10.80 %] - Boil 15.0 min	Hop	9	4.7 IBUs
10.00 g	Motueka [6.60 %] - Boil 5.0 min	Hop	10	1.4 IBUs
10.00 g	Riwaka [5.20 %] - Boil 5.0 min	Hop	11	1.1 IBUs
20.00 g	Cascade [7.20 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 15.0 min	Hop	12	3.9 IBUs
20.00 g	Motueka [6.60 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 15.0 min	Hop	13	3.6 IBUs
20.00 g	Riwaka [5.20 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 15.0 min	Hop	14	2.8 IBUs
10.00 g	Nelson Sauvin [10.80 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 15.0 min	Hop	15	2.9 IBUs
1.0 pkg	Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) [50.28 ml]	Yeast	16	-
40.00 g	Motueka [6.60 %] - Dry Hop 55.0 Days	Hop	17	0.0 IBUs
50.00 g	Riwaka [5.20 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days	Hop	18	0.0 IBUs
20.00 g	Cascade [7.20 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days	Hop	19	0.0 IBUs
20.00 g	Nelson Sauvin [10.80 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days	Hop	20	0.0 IBUs

[Dan]

Looks pretty solid to me mate - I'd go for it. What's the worst thing that could happen....famous last words!!

[Cain Harland]

I'm thinking of brewing this all Nelson Sav IPA. Any suggestions?

Single Sav
14-B American IPA

Size: 40.0 L @ 20 °C
Efficiency: 75.0%
Attenuation: 75.0%

Original Gravity: 1.069 (1.056 - 1.075)
Terminal Gravity: 1.017 (1.010 - 1.018)
Color: 9.81 (6.0 - 15.0)
Alcohol: 6.81% (5.5% - 7.5%)
Bitterness: 70.2 (40.0 - 70.0)

Ingredients:
12 kg (94.5%) Gladfields Pale Ale - added during mash
.2 kg (1.6%) Carapils®/Carafoam® - added during mash
0.5 kg (3.9%) Pale Crystal Malt - added during mash

15.0 g (4.1%) Nelson Sauvin (14.0%) - added first wort
10.0 g (2.7%) Nelson Sauvin (14.0%) - added during boil, boiled 60 m
45.0 g (12.3%) Nelson Sauvin (14.0%) - added during boil, boiled 20 m
50 g (13.7%) Nelson Sauvin (14.0%) - added during boil, boiled 10 m
50 g (13.7%) Nelson Sauvin (14.0%) - added during boil, boiled 5 m
50 g (13.7%) Nelson Sauvin (14.0%) - fame out
145 g (39.7%) Nelson Sauvin (14.0%) - added dry to primary fermenter