Recipe Advice Thread

[denimglen]

Thought it might be handy to have a thread for some of the more advanced brewers to give some advice on recipes.

Let's see how it goes eh...

[Mark Weusten]

I was hoping for some advice on this American IPA recipe I want to brew. I have never done a big IPA so would appreciate any tips. Am aiming for a Caramel/Toffee West Coast tasting brew.

American IPA

[b]Recipe Specs[/b]
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Batch Size (L):           23.0
Total Grain (kg):         8.420
Total Hops (g):           330.00
Original Gravity (OG):    1.080  (°P): 19.3
Final Gravity (FG):       1.020  (°P): 5.1
Alcohol by Volume (ABV):  7.86 %
Colour (SRM):             10.4   (EBC): 20.5
Bitterness (IBU):         98.5   (Average)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 70
Boil Time (Minutes):      60

[b]Grain Bill[/b]
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7.500 kg Pale Ale Malt (89.07%)
0.280 kg Caramalt (3.33%)
0.280 kg Carapils (Dextrine) (3.33%)
0.280 kg Crystal 60 (3.33%)
0.080 kg Acidulated Malt (0.95%)

[b]Hop Bill[/b]
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30.0 g Warrior Pellet (15.8% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (1.3 g/L)
50.0 g Columbus Pellet (14.2% Alpha) @ 15 Minutes (Boil) (2.2 g/L)
50.0 g Amarillo Pellet (8.6% Alpha) @ 10 Minutes (Boil) (2.2 g/L)
50.0 g Simcoe Pellet (12.2% Alpha) @ 5 Minutes (Boil) (2.2 g/L)

[b]Misc Bill[/b]
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Single step Infusion at 66°C for 60 Minutes.
Fermented at 19°C with US-05 repitch

Dry hop schedule
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50.0 g Columbus for 5 days
50.0 g Amarillo for 5 days
50.0 g Simcoe for 5 days

[Nick Good]

Can anyone give me  a bit of a steer on a recipe that I got from AHB called Doc's yardglass ale.

It only uses 2 grains = 3.9kg Maris Otter and .43 dark wheat.

Hops = 9.4 gm cascade and magnum (I used target not magnum) @ 60m

            9.3 gm Columbus @ 10m

            9.3 Columbus and 14.4 cascade @ 0m

It came out very well, was clear as a bell and if you didn't know better you would think it was a lager.

It also was lower alc at 4% or a bit less (recipe says 3.76)

US-05 and I biab so I added 20mins for each  hop addition and turned 0min into dry hop.

It is a really good beer and not to strong but it just needs a little hop zing somewhere without getting carried away.

Has anyone got ant suggestions?

[Scott H]

Maybe add an extra late addition to get the zing your after, why not try a re brew and keep the 0 min and dry hop asell?

[Dyl]

Ok so heres what I have in the freezer...

UK Fuggles..16gr

NZ Fuggles..40gr

US Simcoe..36

NZ Pacifica..46

NZ Styrian Goldings..30

US Warrior..40

Amarillo...30

Coluumbus...30

Orbit...78

Any suggestions on my next brew? I like hoppy beers! I was thinking of doing 2 10L batches. Any suggestions welcome.

[Scott H]

American PA

Warrior or columbus to bitter and Amarillo & simcoe late & dry.

Maybe a nz pils with the pacifica? not really used them before so don't know how they taste.

Something speciality with the Orbit?

[Dyl]

sounds good scott, thanks

might do a nz pale ale with the pacifica instead tho, so I only have to mash one lot of grains, but might just try single hop

cheers!

[Peter Smith]

Looking for a decent Dogbolter Recipe, found this online, thoughts?

Going to use WL007 

Original Gravity:	1.052
Terminal Gravity:	1.012
Color:	23.5 SRM
Alcohol:	5.2% ABV
Bitterness:	55.6 IBU

9 lbs Maris Otter
0.5 lbs Carastan® Malt
0.25 lbs Chocolate
0.25 lbs English Wheat Malt
0.1875 lbs Roast Barley
.1875 lbs Oats Flaked   (I might up this a touch)

1.5 oz Goldings - 6.8 AA% pellets; boiled 90 min
0.5 oz Goldings - 6.8 AA% pellets; boiled 5 min
0.5 oz Fuggle - 3.8 AA% pellets; boiled 1 min

Notes

Coverted original 19L metric recipe to US units and scaled it for 5.5 boil Oat flakes are shown, but should be replaced with 3oz Oat Malt as part of the mash. The Carastan Malt provides a distinct English character, but the the lower Lovibond means that the darker Chocolate Malt and Roasted Barley by Crisp is needed to get the SRM up to style. Adjusted the efficiency down to 70% in order to hit the projected 1.052 OG. The BeerTools bitterness calculator shows this out of range for the style, but when I punch the three additions into Glenn Tinseth's calculator I get: 37 + 7 + 0 = 44 IBU's which is well within range.

Water treatment:

CRS: 25.4ml

Calc. Chloride: 7.39g

Salt: 5g

Res.Alk: 80

No mash or fermentation temps provided, so that is left as an exercise for the brewer. Here is a description of Dogbolter by Eddie Gadds: "Roast barley and chocolate and crystal malts combine to give the ale a deep deep ruby colour and sweet mocca and toast flavour. A little oats in the mash help to provide a smoothness and late Fuggles hops create a resinous balance. It ferments out fairly dry and the end result is a sturdy, powerful and smooth ale not to be rushed at." http://gaddsbeershop.blogspot.com/2008/01/gadds-faithful-dogbolter-...

[Cain Harland]

I brewed this and got only 55% efficiency which still left me with 6% so not the big beer I was after but not too weak either. The hops where about right the colors good etc. But this like a few other stouts I have drank recently seems too clean on the malt profile for my tastes. Any suggestions for something to add a bit or maltyness and complexity in there? A bit extra on thickness would be good too, a bit of torrified wheat maybe.

Size: 40.0 L @ 20 °C

Ingredients:
10.0 kg (66.3%) Pale Ale Malt - added during mash
1.58 kg (10.5%) Crystal 40 - added during mash
1.5 kg (9.9%) Oats Flaked - added during mash
1 kg (6.6%) Dark Chocolate Malt - added during mash
1 kg (6.6%) Roasted Barley - added during mash
30.0 g (33.3%) Warrior® (16.0%) - added during boil, boiled 60 m
30.0 g (33.3%) Liberty (4.0%) - added during boil, boiled 30.0 m
30 g (33.3%) Liberty (4.0%) - added during boil, boiled 15 m

[Peter Church]

try toasting the oats until golden, should bring out a nutty oaty goodness, i find oats on their own don't add much to flavour. 

[Tim Low]

What about mixing crystal malts to add complexity? Could try substituting some of the crystal 40 for some 80 and 120L. What yeast did you use? An English strain might help bring out the malt flavour if you wanted to go down the English stout route.  

 

[Cain Harland]

I used Mangrove Jacks M07 British Ale yeast. 1 pack in 2L starter and another pack pitched into wort. It was a slight over pitch for the higher gravity I had planned so well over for what I ended up with, the starter would have been plenty but I had already pitched by the time I thought of that. It fermented super clean like what I would expect from US05, not that there is anything wrong with that, I like a clean yeast.

Good suggestion with the mix of crystals I will try that next time and maybe chuck in a small amount of shepherds delight or Munich.

[David R]

Planning on brewing a slightly pumped up version of my Rye-PA, but Simcoe and Amarillo were out of stock so went for Chinook and Centennial instead. I used a 50:50 mix of Simcoe and Amarillo in the original, and have used Chinook and Centennial together in a 1:2 ratio and really liked the taste. However that was in a fairly light "session IPA" type beer, and I'm thinking with the rye the pine/spice of the Chinook would be good in equal parts to the fruitiness of the Centennial.

Also, does 5g/L sound about right for the flameout and dry hops for a beer of this magnitude, or bump it up a bit more?

Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 20.00 l
Boil Time: 60 min
Efficiency: 65%
Est Original Gravity: 1.080 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.018 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 8.2 %
Bitterness: 76.2 IBUs
Est Color: 12.8 SRM

Ingredients
6.60 kg Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 78.6 %
1.30 kg Rye Malt (4.7 SRM) Grain 2 15.5 %
0.50 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) Grain 3 6.0 %

20.00 g Chinook [11.10 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 4 22.0 IBUs
20.00 g Centennial [9.20 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 5 14.0 IBUs
10.00 g Chinook [11.10 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 6 8.5 IBUs
0.50 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 mins) Fining 7 -
30.00 g Centennial [9.20 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 8 9.9 IBUs
15.00 g Chinook [11.10 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 9 6.0 IBUs
50.00 g Centennial [9.20 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 10.0 min Hop 10 9.9 IBUs
50.00 g Chinook [11.10 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 10.0 min Hop 11 6.0 IBUs

2.0 pkg Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) [50.28 ml] Yeast 12 -
50.00 g Centennial [9.20 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 13 0.0 IBUs
50.00 g Chinook [11.10 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 14 0.0 IBUs